Today we bring on Angela Wu LMFT aka the Sassy Asian Therapist to bring on a professional light on what generational trauma is, and how we can cope with it as second generation asian Americans. We discuss this idea of trying to "fix" our parents as children of refugees, tactics to handle generational trauma, how we can start the conversation of healing with our parents and many more!

David and Robert met when they were both young and starting their their careers. While Robert was building his long train of shops up along highway 99, he met a nice lawyer from Camarillo, CA who was willing to help Robert on reading documents and any legal situations he was in. To this day, David is just a phone call away for any of Robert's legal issues. David has helped him navigate everything from signing on a new store, to maneuvering through the painful lawsuits that Robert has encountered. It was a blessing to have David on to talk about not only his experiences through the lawsuits, but also bring in a 3rd party perspective on what was happening, and what exactly went down with the fall of Golden Bake.

Robert discusses the lowest point in his life in America - when a family member and business partner who he trained from the ground up, stabbed him in the back and pushed him out of his own company. He talks about being depressed, angry, and turning to alcohol to release himself from the pain. Robert felt he spent his whole life working and sacrificing for this company, and only to have it be taken away by greed and jealousy was the twist he never ever expected. I hope that highlighting this story can help the second generation community do better for ourselves, and learn that the only way for us to move forward as a community is to uplift each other, not tear each other down.

Robert reflects on his past and the different obstacles he faced as he ran 4 different companies at once. We dive into topics like how people viewed him, jealousy, family perceptions and more. He recalls an instance where we attends a wedding where nobody actually knew who he was and he witnessed (and even joined in!) on the gossip about this mysterious man who ran Golden Bake. He remembers the great times, watching this company become the pride and joy of the Cambodian community. Robert then dives into the gigantic issue that he was faced with.

Robert continues to grow B&H in Northern California and ended up doing so well that he surpassed his Southern California counterpart. They had an agreement when they first decided to join together that Robert's territory was Northern California and his friend was Southern. However, the counterpart started getting jealous and crossing into Northern California territory. Robert let it drag on for 9 years until he eventually had to file a lawsuit. It was a sad time to feel like he has to be pushed to do such a thing within his own community. Robert also discusses his health sacrifices and surviving 2 strokes during this building process.

Robert discusses the cultural downfalls of the Cambodian culture that he first realizes when he tries to grow his business. He notices that there is a lack of community and help when he comes to supporting their own Cambodian people, which we call "crabs in a bucket" mentality. Robert does his best to create this community and despite the pushback, continues to move forward and grow the business.

Robert and I take it back to discuss how he went from a silent investor to running the Northern California division of B&H Bakery Distributors. Robert believes it was a great idea from the very beginning to supply his own community with the ingredients they needed to run their donut shops. After building the donut shops up along California, Robert already had the donut network he needed to kickstart the supply company. B&H Bakery Distributors being in Northern California while his family still in Southern California meant that he only spent 1 day a week at home. We discuss how his sacrifices and lack of family time has impacted his relationship with the family today.

Robert continued on with his growth mindset and built donut shops until he hit South Lake Tahoe where he lost money due to renting the shops to owners with gambling problems. He then decided that he was going to tackle Church's Fried Chicken when he found out of an opportunity to take over their locations with the idea of potentially turning them into donut shops. Robert goes national with his dreams and even tries to strike a deal. We truly learn that Robert at this point in his life is willing to tackle any challenge that life throws his way. He also tried to tackle Yum Yum Donuts when they tried to sell their locations. We learn about the history of donut shops in California and why some of them may just be Yum Yum Donuts converted to Cambodian donut shops.

Robert scales up the state of California taking 6-8 months at a time building donut shops all along highway 99. Robert backpacks his way just building one shop after the next with no intention of stopping. He has become borderline obsessed with his process of building donut shops. Robert talks about never taking a day off and how the culture he was raised in believed that if he had money, he had everything. Robert reflects on his life and realized how crazy he was to work and think like that.

Today, I released the video called Dear Fellow Survivors. This video feels like the accumulation of what the podcast represents so far: healing. My goal is and always has been to heal as many remaining survivors as possible, and this video is the kickstart. Todays release is an audio version of Robert's speech, however if you don't understand Khmer, I would recommend to check out the YouTube video that includes english subtitles.

I will be taking a 2 week intermission from launching episodes to refresh, plan, and manifest the future of this podcast. If you haven't seen, we were on CBS National TV a few weeks ago, and I feel nothing but gratitude for the opportunity to represent the Cambodian American community through this podcast. (still pinching myself!)

Robert continues to build donut shops throughout California. In this epsiode we talk about Robert's chase towards the American Dream and why he fought so relentlessly towards it. I ask Robert how he has the willpower to keep going, and what his mindset was like as a new refugee in America. This episode was a huge eye opener for me on how refugees look at their life in America as a second chance to life. And how being in a country that allows you to dream, made him feel he had no other option but to chase it.

Robert gets back on his feet and builds his first donut shop's sales in just 6 months. Sleeping and breathing the donut shop day in and day out allowed him to pay back all his investors within the first year. Robert LOVES his newfound way to build a good life in America. He brings mama and the whole family from Portland to also work these donut shops. He relentlessly pushes himself to the limit and enjoys the process of building more and more shops for refugees flooding into the country.

Today we are joined by 3 very important guests - Stuart Isett, Silong Chhun, and Pete Pin who are the collaborators on this very special book. We talk about why Stuart put together this book and what this kind of representation means for the Cambodian community. We even discuss topics such as generational trauma and how we can move forward.

Bob Burton was the real estate commercial agent who helped Robert find his first donut shop ever. Today we with with Bob and recall when he first met Robert and why he felt compelled to help this refugee from Cambodia.

Robert scrambles to find a way to get 30k through his family and friends to buy his first donut shop. After getting the money... in cash, he marches over to the real estate office and drops off a trash bag of money to purchase the store. Stunning the entire office, Bob Burton asks him if he has a check, while Robert responds he doesn't even have a bank account! Within the first week, Robert also encounters his first instance of being robbed. Tired from the long hours, and sleeping in the back of the shop, Robert relentlessly works to build up the business.

Robert immediately decided that it was time to change his lifestyle and dive headfirst into donut shops. He left his company and volunteered to watch over his uncles financials. After working there for about 6 months, he decides he wants to have his own. Robert gets really close with a regular customer named Bob Burton, who happens to be a commercial real esate broker. Together they find Robert's first donut shop. It was the most exciting time of Robert's life so far.

In this episode, Robert found work in LA and starts to make some friends in this new city. He would be out drinking, and living for the weekends as most 20's somethings do. One day he decides to visit his auntie about 30 minutes away from town. Since arriving to their front doorstep, he was treated with disrespect and looked down upon. Without even being offered dinner in their howe, he felt unwelcome and left early. He left that home with a new found passion to improve his life. He brushed off his dirty shirt, wiped his tears, and vowed to get his life together so he would never feel that way again.

In this epsiode we follow Robert and his push to master the English language. He noticed immediately that without the language, you would not be able to get a good job other than a farmer or a janitor. He also started to make American friends who showed him the culture in America. Robert enjoyed the independent way of life because he truly felt it was similar to his natural independent nature. After earning his AA degree, and not getting any job prospects that he wanted, he decided to make a drastic move to change his life and experience a big city. He packed his bags, took $20 for gas..and moved to LA.

Robert has now started to learn more about how different life is like in America. I starts to learn that here in this country, people who work hard regardless of social status and birthright, can be successful. The family also decides that is probably best to move somewhere closer to a stronger Cambodian community, so they move to Portland Oregon. There, Robert was able to make friends and start going to community college to study english. For the first time, Robert is able to plan out his future, and not just survive life, but LIVE it.